Meanwhile, we get an update on Helen's love life - let's talk about socks, baby. Honestly, there's no point trying to summarise it here, you're just going to have to listen in...
And of course we discuss Katie's brilliant new book, The Extremely Embarrassing Life of Lottie Books. It's out now and it's a fantastic read for 9-12 year-olds, or indeed 40-plus year-olds like us who just want something funny to read in the bath.
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