We find out how Ruth helped Helen run her first 5K, and Helen reveals her top running songs. There's also some chat about Ruth's career as a criminal barrister, which mainly involves a lot of reminiscing about This Life.
This episode's Scummy Mummy Confessions are sponsored by Acamar, creators of CBeebies favourite Bing. We are running a fabulous competition with them to celebrate the launch of the new Fisher Price Toilet Train Bing toy. The winner (as judged by us) will receive a special visit to their nursery or preschool, along with some ace Bing goodies.
You have until 15 August to enter - just share a photo of your latest parenting "challenge" with us on Instagram, tagging @scummymummies, @bingbunny, #WhatWouldFlopDo, and also tagging two friends who might want to join in. If your account is private, you'll need to make it public until the closing date or send it to us a DM. Visit @bingbunny for full terms and conditions.
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